Sujit wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:30 pm
Pem wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:01 pm
An important principle for learning of the behaviour of Saturn:
I came across a female s chart with an Aquarius Asc, Saturn placed in 5H, where
this person defiantly, against parent s wishes, married a young man to satisfy his wish.
They married in the Jupiter MD, had a child, and subsequently in the following Saturn MD
when Saturn had its reign, at a weak point, Saturn took away the life of the husband and she
is now a widow and this could continue to the end of Saturn MD.
Lesson : Never disobey Saturn s orders when delay of marriage is evidenced. Saturn is a debt
collector, task master, and does not seem to show favour even when he is supposed to be a Friend.
So Saturn either gives Divorce or Death of partner as a punishment for being defiant.
Saturn does his duty.
Sorry. i dont agree with you AND is misleading. for learning purposes include birth details.
for Aquarius Saturn rules the ascendant would not cause harm.
for relationships, spouse you need to see 7th and marital happiness can be seen from 4th, 2nd and or 11th.
There are riders to delay which nullify delay.
Will discuss SATURN only.
If there is a chart in which we have determined that Saturn and only saturn delay is present.
1] Lord of the ascendant and the lord 9th house have 5:9 relationship, or they are placed in one house in the natal chart except in the ascendant and the 6th house.
2] Lord of the 2nd house and the lord of the 9th house have 5:9 relationship or they are placed in one house in the natal chart except the ascendant and the 6th house.
3] The lord of Ascendant, 2nd house and the 9th house should in no way have any connection with the 6th lord by being placed in the 6th house or with the lord of the 6th house.
4] The lord of the ascendant and the lord of the 9th house//// The lord of the 2nd house and the 9th house have 4:10 relationship in this case I have observed that it will not work if one of the planet involved is natural enemy of the other.
If the above rider is present then it also automatically nullifies Jupiter delay also.
When Jupiter gives delay by being placed in Libra in natal or Navamsa chart [this delay is around 24 yrs and 6 months ] ...... There is no combination or riders to it.
Please note: In Saturn and Jupiter delay we only look and consider the natal chart and placement of planets no reference to navamsa chart for karakanshas is made, as the SUPER DELAYS ARE SEPARATE and their delays are nullified by Karakansas only.
In other words the riders to DELAY and SUPER DELAY are different and do not interfere with each other.