How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Jak » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:16 pm

Hi Noel,
Noel Eastwood wrote:Jak, that's a lot of words and my brain is small, how about tighten it up for an old man? Give me 2 sentences for each question, then you make this old fella happy :)
I'm so sorry! It was very long! :oops: I seem to have this great need to be thorough (could be my pluto conjunct lilith in virgo?) and then my Aries sun gets too impatient before I get to the summarise stage! As you probably noticed I'm not the best at that, but will have a practice now! LOL Partly I wanted to show my workings (hence all the quotes) but I should have just cited the websites.
Just quickly, think of each archetype as a person, give them personalities then imagine them in conversation, in aspect. How would they get on, what would they say to each other, how would they relate?
I love that way of looking at it!
You're close with Mars, now how would he relate with Sun and Moon? What clothing does he wear - see his sign for that; where will be he (setting) - see his House for that.

Give your chart context, give it life and personality, you are a community of 'selves', little selves we call archetypes. There are more but that's beyond what we are doing here.
After doing my summary post :roll: :oops: LOL :wink: I will sit in contemplation about this (and try to respond in two lines! <chuckles>) When you say 'There are more' - did you mean more archetypes?
Exciting isn't it :)
It certainly is! :D

Thanks Noel!

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Jak » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:00 pm

Hi Noel,

here goes with the summary! :D
1. The T-square of Sun opp Moon both square Mars. I'll give you a hint, the focal planet, Mars, is sacrificed to help the other two, Sun and Moon, to stay in balance. How would that affect you?
Wondering what type of t-square it is (I.e. A cardinal/fixed/mutable one). Do you tell by looking for where the focal planet is located? They also talk about an unoccupied point located directly opposite the focal planet that is evidently important and sensitive. Do you treat this point as important, or do you tend not to consider it when looking at a chart?

Referring back to your post where you say:
the focal planet, Mars, is sacrificed to help the other two, Sun and Moon, to stay in balance.
Is that because the focal planet is what is used to try to resolve the opposition? If so then it seems that my Mars is being taxed/weakened considerably by playing 'piggie in the middle' with my sun and moon? I tend to alternate between being more independent/self-assured and being dependant/less self-assured. The latter seems to lead me into some disempowering situations, so that my sun aspect feels deeply dissatisfied with the consequences, and subsequently, would you say it's my mars that has to become extra fiery to help balance things?
2. Moon wide conjunction with Uranus and Sun opposite Uranus, these are highly significant to your moods, how? and why?
Going by what I read, I'd say my Moon conjunct my Uranus causes mood swings caused by affects on hypothalamus (affecting sleep, appetite, energy levels etc.) and the two different energy extremes of moon and uranus. It is true that my moods fluctuate a lot and can go to extremes. I read that 'Satisfying the need for stimulation is vital in dealing with the impulsive nature of Moon conjunct Uranus...Acceptance of, and family support of any psychic abilities are essential for the young person with this aspect.' It's interesting regarding psychic abilities.Explains a lot thinking about it. Would you say that is a major aspect to suggest psychic abilities?

With regards sun opposite uranus aspect, I read the description at these two links:

http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Plane ... ion-Uranus
https://cafeastrology.com/natal/sunuranusaspects.html

What can I say, if I'm brutally honest I see some of that in me at times. Not nice. And another 'emotional rollercoaster' effect. As if I didn't have enough of that influence from the moon conjunct uranus aspect!

This description here:

http://astroarena12.blogspot.co.uk/2016 ... iment.html

says the aspect should mean that I shouldn't take things personally, but actually I do, and I wonder if that has to do with the fact that my moon is conjunct uranus, and that this duo are opposing my sun? It all sounds like quite a muddle! I read that this aspect will cause a conflict in finding an identity since Uranus is about detachment. I also read that I'll work out who I am when I'm willing to be different, by being 'one of the people' while being totally my own person. And that I'll shine the most when I embrace what makes me unique whilst not caring about shining, success or what others think.
3. Sun conjunct Chiron, the wounded healer, how might that affect you?
I wasn't sure if this conjunction was close enough? Looking into it (I read about it at this link: http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_wounding_e.htm ) I see it is another heavy aspect <sigh> but with some powerful effects to offer if understood and realised. Do you know what effect my chiron conjunct sun opposing my moon and uranus conjunction has?

Like all the aspects, I would imagine it's important to take into account their house and sign placement and also how they are aspected to other planets?

Thank you Noel for all your insightful feedback and pointing out these important aspects to me. Although I have briefly looked at these aspects before it wasn't in as much depth and not with as much focus, they certainly prove enlightening!

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Noel Eastwood » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:57 pm

Thanks Jak, we're getting there.

Mars is the focal planet, I don't believe the imaginary opposition to it is anything of anything, I try to stick with what i see in front of me.

Mars balances the opposition, so often this fulcrum planet sacrifices his/her power to keep the opposition happy. So there will be times your Martian energy just disappears. It's also in the 1st and n Capricorn, so that is extremely powerful drive, ambition and success, but with Mars distracted it can mean his energy is scattered.

Moon con Uranus is as you said stressful, both in Libra, Air, so intellectually stressed, too much worry, too much thinking.
Sun conjunct Chiron, can be your wounded healer traits come from your relationship with your father or father figure. Healing is something you'll fall into in life. But it also means you have your own wounds to heal first.

Sun opp Moon and Ur, stress, worry, and again too much thinking. A good idea is to learn to meditate, and do it seriously, deep meditation, off with the fairy's type of meditation, day dreams ae good too.

Anyway, bed time for me catch you again soon.

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Noel Eastwood » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:59 pm

more selves inside our psyche, archetypes yes but inner selves as well.

Now for you to meditate on your archetypes and tell me a bit about them. You'll learn how to do that if you subscribe to my newsletter and download my free books. And now I'm going to bed :-)

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Jak » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:47 pm

Hi Noel,

thank you so much for your reply. It all makes a lot of sense (e.g. over thinking and worrying and when the Martian energy disappears).

What do you think of equal houses? Until recently I've been following equal houses system (because that's the one I got introduced to). Now I make more
of a point of looking at both equal and placidus systems. It gets really confusing because when one of my planets (or someone else I know) is in one house in equal houses system and a different
one in placidus system, I can see mine/that person's characteristics as a mix of both descriptions. So just wondered what you think of the equal house system/other systems?

Btw I think I'm already subscribed to your newsletter (I subscribed recently - is it the one entitled 'Noel Eastwood + Pluto's cave'?) I'm looking forward to tucking into your free course! Thank you
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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Jak » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:57 pm

Hi Noel,

I wanted to get your opinion on the chart of a husband of a lady I know who has been diagnosed with a brain tumor. I expected that there might be direct aries connections but puzzled to find there wasn't.
Then I did some research into it and I wonder if the moon heavily afflicted in the first house (part of a t-square) with mars in 12th house might be connected to it (as well as pluto crossing his ascendant at time of diagnosis)?
I read online somewhere recently that some astrologers think moon is connected to brain and some think mars is.

I'd really appreciate some feedback about it as he has a family of four young children and was only given a few months to live (which he's already gone beyond).

It's probably best if I start a separate thread about it and attach his chart (don't worry I'll keep it to one paragraph promise :lol: :wink: :oops: )

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Noel Eastwood » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:11 pm

Jak, welcome to my Pluto's Cave newsletter :)

OK, Moon in the 1st House, fine, but moody. Mars 12th we know this can be frustrating, Mars wants to play outside in the sunshine and the 12th is like putting him in a dark cave. Do either point to brain cancer? Nope, not at all, nothing really does. Don't forget, millions of people are born that same moment, and only a tiny percentage will develop the same characteristics, there's more to human personality and health than astrology going on out there. Astrology does help us understand but sometimes we need to accept it isn't the answer to everything.

Pluto transiting the Ascendant, OK, now we're talking very serious health and psychological issues. Does that mean cancer? It does happen, I've seen it with Pluto transits. not every time but sometimes. But there have to be other factors involved, like a domino effect, poor diet, lots of stress, poor genes, and a million other things that have to first line up.

Is there a brain planet? Possibly Jupiter, but that's a 'possible', I like to think it's the whole chart, not a single point. I hope that helps. You family friend is in a bad way, I am sorry to hear that, good luck to them and I am sure you will help in every you can.

Does astrology have an answer in this situation? not really. Cancer of the brain, well, that is even too complex for psychology, astrology, tarot and obviously modern medicine. I would suggest alternative approaches but I think it might be too late if he has already lived past his prescribed date.

My sister in law had cancer of the pancreas, when she was dying I saw her on the 'other side' where she told me that this was how it was supposed to happen. She said that she was going to die and that was fine, it was right. OK, I accepted that, but I was still angry that modern medicine caused her cancer from the medication she was taking, and her specialists continued to give her chemo right up to the last few days before she died making her last months a living hell. Human greed and intellectual arrogance are things I struggle to understand.

Sometimes these decisions are not ours to make, it's out of our hands, my friend. We just have to trust God or whatever we believe in, a universal consciousness, that this is the way it is meant to be. It's hard but we do what we can while we can, then leave the rest to the universe.

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Jak » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:46 am

Hi Noel :D

thank you for your helpful (and very knowledgeable!) reply :thumbs:
Jak, welcome to my Pluto's Cave newsletter :)
Thank you! :D
OK, Moon in the 1st House, fine, but moody. Mars 12th we know this can be frustrating, Mars wants to play outside in the sunshine and the 12th is like putting him in a dark cave. Do either point to brain cancer? Nope, not at all, nothing really does. Don't forget, millions of people are born that same moment, and only a tiny percentage will develop the same characteristics, there's more to human personality and health than astrology going on out there. Astrology does help us understand but sometimes we need to accept it isn't the answer to everything.

Pluto transiting the Ascendant, OK, now we're talking very serious health and psychological issues. Does that mean cancer? It does happen, I've seen it with Pluto transits. not every time but sometimes. But there have to be other factors involved, like a domino effect, poor diet, lots of stress, poor genes, and a million other things that have to first line up.
I see what you mean about the amount of people born at that moment although wouldn't it be the same with the transit - that a lot of people will be affected by that same transit e.g. pluto transiting the ascendant? Is there a reason a transit would make more of an impact?
Is there a brain planet? Possibly Jupiter, but that's a 'possible', I like to think it's the whole chart, not a single point. I hope that helps. You family friend is in a bad way, I am sorry to hear that, good luck to them and I am sure you will help in every you can.
Interesting about Jupiter. Do you know the reasoning as to why it's considered to represent the brain? (Presumably Mars is considered by some to represent brain because it's the ruler of Aries, and I suppose others might think its the Moon because of its relation with our emotions/moods?) Yes that makes complete sense to look at the chart as a whole.
My sister in law had cancer of the pancreas, when she was dying I saw her on the 'other side' where she told me that this was how it was supposed to happen. She said that she was going to die and that was fine, it was right. OK, I accepted that, but I was still angry that modern medicine caused her cancer from the medication she was taking, and her specialists continued to give her chemo right up to the last few days before she died making her last months a living hell. Human greed and intellectual arrogance are things I struggle to understand.
I'm so sorry to hear you lost your sister. That's terrible they kept giving the medication like that.
Sometimes these decisions are not ours to make, it's out of our hands, my friend. We just have to trust God or whatever we believe in, a universal consciousness, that this is the way it is meant to be. It's hard but we do what we can while we can, then leave the rest to the universe.
I thought that maybe by looking at the particular challenging aspects in his chart and him bringing the light of awareness to those things, that maybe it might help an energy shift (energy that perhaps has become blocked enough to bring about physical illness). That maybe by making some life changes - like bringing back his passion of being at sea/on the water - (he had a business running boat charters and loves to be at sea but had to give that up due to a move about a year before he was diagnosed) I just can't help but wonder how much our everyday activities and routines might affect things on a deeper level (e.g. more than just the basics like physical exercise etc). I suppose the idea is if the person is more satisfied in their life, then the negative emotions (that could end up creating blockages in the energy field that end up affecting the physical level) could be reduced so that maybe a reversal could occur. Anyway as it turns out this person is not a fan of astrology and thinks it's all nonsense so they weren't interested in hearing about it.

Thanks very much for taking the time to give your feedback on this Noel :D

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Noel Eastwood » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:30 am

Hi Jak, it is my pleasure to be of service, yes, transits do weird things, Pluto in particular is extremely destructive because he demands the person look deeply within to find their selves. If that kills them so be it. Maybe death is part of the transformation itself? Maybe it is like the caterpillar that must die to be reborn as a butterfly? Perhaps your friend has done what they needed to do, perhaps their grieving now is normal? Leaving behind their family is horrible, but all things must pass away one day.

I know Pluto causes us to strip away everything, to be rebuilt from the ground up. Maybe your friend has already done that and now it is time to leave... I just don't know, I don't have an answer beyond that, sorry.

To answer your question, everyone with Pluto crossing their Ascendant right now will be going through similar issues, but to varying extents due to their level of consciousness. Some will cruise through, some will be transformed, some will crash and burn and some will get sick. But I can say that Pluto leaves no stone unturned, if there are lots of stones then lots of hardship and transformation; if few stones it's going to be transformative but less traumatic.

My Ascendant is 29 deg Capricorn, and already I'm terrified :) natally I have a loaded 8th House, Moon, Mercury, Pluto, Sun and Mars, Pluto is exact conjunct my Sun. I know exactly what Pluto can do when I don't listen to him. I've been broken and mended so many times... sometimes ignorance is bliss.

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Re: How does being born on a full moon affect an individual?

Post by Jak » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:40 pm

Hi Noel,

thank you so much for getting back to me :D

I get what you're saying about Pluto. So what happens if someone has Pluto conjunct their ascendant by one degree in their natal chart?! (My partner has this.) Does this mean they will have lots of health issues? He also has Sun, Mercury, Mars, Uranus and North Node in Scorpio. He certainly is very Scorpio!

So Pluto is coming around to your ascendant? Oh blimey! But I bet you're very well equipped and ready for it 8) I was reading on some website somewhere recently that having planets/points at 29 degrees is quite significant. What is your take on that?

I just want to thank you for all your help and knowledgeable advice :flowers: I have started your course and find it very helpful to go through the basics so thoroughly and looking into my chart in that steady, focused way is proving very enlightening! I have an exercise book that I am methodically writing in following your exercises :D I am still only on lesson 2 (a bit slow partly because of finding the time and also I am very slow and methodical when I dedicate myself to something. Wondering if that is because of my Mercury retrograde in Taurus?)

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