help with this horary please.will my boyfriend get the job he applied?

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An Horary chart is used to answer a question about a particular matter or issue and is set up for the time the question comes to mind or is asked.
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help with this horary please.will my boyfriend get the job he applied?

Post by ariavenue » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:36 pm

I asked this question(third party question) so the querent is Lord 7(Saturn) and the job is his lord 10 ...thus mercury
he as a Saturn in Capricorn in its sign...so he is strong and he has the power to act and mercury-the job (lord 10) also in Capricorn is ruled by him
I see an applying aspect between the moon and a sun...thus a trine...but I am not sure if I can interpret this as a positive one, or if it is relative to our question ( sun rules his 9th house)and since he made this application through internet I might say that this is the confirmation letter he expects.

mercury will also make a trine with moon in less than 6 degrees. ....shall I give the moon to him (lord7), as a co-significator of the querent, or see it as a significator of the quesited...although moon doesn't rule house 10th?

Moreover mercury just conjuncted Saturn in Capricorn and finding mercury -lord 10 in his first house...i would say thats very positive....so could we say that he has the job in his pocket?

I would appreciate any help.
thanks in advance
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Re: help with this horary please.will my boyfriend get the job he applied?

Post by admin » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:48 am

Hi ariavenue,

I apologise for the delay – was waiting for our Horary specialist to reply but it appears that he’s unavailable at this time.

Of course by now, this situation may have already come to fruition or been resolved.

I’m not a specialist in this field and I don’t always ‘go by the rules’ in Horary matters, so if I hadn’t read about all of your ‘querent’ matters I would say that the situation is not at all clear (Saturn in 7th/Other, sq. Neptune in 10th/Career).

Yes, the Moon (ruling the Horary chart) is in applying trine to the Sun (in 8th) which does seem to be a positive. And apart from that Saturn sq. Neptune in Horary 10th, which does seem to interfere with the outcome, the rest of the chart looks really good for a positive outcome. However, somehow in here there’s confusion...perhaps it is that the company he applied to is in a state of flux at this time, or perhaps that particular job is in the process of being re-defined.

Sorry, but that’s all I’m able to offer.

I’ll be very interested to hear how it all turns out if you don’t mind, as this will add to and help my knowledge about Horary matters.

Thank you.

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Re: help with this horary please.will my boyfriend get the job he applied?

Post by ariavenue » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:15 am

hello admin :D
thank you for your analysis <3.....Indeed you dont ‘go by the rules’ in Horary matters :D ...but its interesting though this Neptune is being floating in the 10th...

however, I was wrong.... I asked the question not him ...so I am the moon and I don't think that i could take moon in this case as a significator of the quesited ...correct me if I am wrong...I think also, that taking his 10th would be a mistake in this chart...since this isn't his job yet...It’s a job that anybody could get; (that happens when we are not familiar with third party questions :lol: :lol: :lol: )

So in that case I should have used the radical 10th house and L10...thus Jupiter. In that case by Saturn antiscion Jupiter will conjunct him... let's say in 2 or more...so will see..maybe if we look the 4th as 'The end of the matter': the way the situation will turn out.....being in mercury also,can we see that as a positive hint?...having in mind mercury is in L7 House and ruled by him...

Also maybe this moon in L12 demonstrates a rival as a secret enemy (moon is less than 5 degrees from the l12 cusp...so i consider her inside L12 and since also moon is also his 7th perspective rivals).... .. and according to Lillyan aspect to the Sun will work instead of one to Lord 10...on the assumption that the querent is seeking a royal appointment...so not good news at all...or maybe simply this moon demonstrates me and my fears of him being rejected...really I don't know :? :? :? oh and something else ..this is an aviation company...my boyfriend is a pilot :)

thank you again so much for your analysis !!!!

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Re: help with this horary please.will my boyfriend get the job he applied?

Post by admin » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:37 am

Well, thank you for all of that ! It was very helpful to my understanding of Horary matters and jogged memories of studies on this matter from the distant past.

And yes, I do agree with you that the Moon (especially ruling the Asc.) should be taken as ‘you’ being the Querent. Nonetheless, clearly the question is relevant to him and so 7th ruler (Saturn), (with Mercury therein ruling the 4th ‘end of the matter’).

I notice that you’ve included the ‘Part of Fortune’ and would like to know why and how you use this in Horary astrology; and I note that this is the only indicator of ‘air’ in the chart (the whole matter being about his work as a pilot). Perhaps I’m stretching here, but also, although I realise the outer planets aren’t used in Horary matters, I find it hard to ignore them.

By the way, I remember reading that if the Asc. occurs within less than the first 3 degrees of a Sign, then the question is ‘premature’ – which of course if this is true, the chart would not be relevant in the first place. (I remember something similar to this with regard to starting new projects and the New Moon – waiting til the 3rd day after the New Moon to do so. Obviously that isn’t degrees in this instance but I find that an interesting correlation).

Thanks again.

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Re: help with this horary please.will my boyfriend get the job he applied?

Post by ariavenue » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:22 am

hello admin :D
Yes you are correct.Maybe the question is ‘premature’ strictly according to horary rules...however I thought to give it a try...and still no news from this particular job :(
Now about the fortuna...in this chart is found on my 5th...thus on his 11th..moreover its antiscion inside my 9th and his 3nd respectively...really i don't think that it's of any importance in this chart since it's not applying to any important cusp...for example dc or l10 ...JUPITER)According to Frawley its role in horary is limited and simply shows the querent's treasure- thus what's important to him ...(whatever that might be in the context of the question). However Frawley emphasizes its role in sports events-contests and mostly its antiscion..."If the antiscion of Fortuna is in a significant position, it is one of the most powerful single testimonies in judging these charts. Perhaps the most powerful of all." :)

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