Transplutonian Planets
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:45 am
For the attention of the Forum.
With the kind assistance of Admin, I am currently researching the meaning of the Transneptunian planets, and have arrived at the following tentative conclusions. Please don't take them as written in stone; I expect and invite criticism.
TRANSNEPTUNIANS IN MODERN ASTROLOGY
In recent years the number of legitimate astrological bodies has increased with the discovery of several bodies beyond the orbit of Neptune. Most of these bodies are structurally similar to Pluto and are termed “planetoids” by the astronomers, who kindly tabulated them for us. I shall of course refer to them as “planets”, unless I wish to distinguish them as a class, in which case I’ll use the terms “Transneptunians” or “minor planets”. A planet is whatever we astrologers say is a planet, even if the astronomers say it's a star, satellite or planetoid. All that matters is that it moves against the background of fixed stars (etymology: asteres planetai "wandering stars" ).
The following key applies.
Luminaries: SU Sun, MO Moon
Major Planets: ME Mercury, VE Venus, MA Mars, JU Jupiter, SA Saturn, UR Uranus, NE Neptune
Minor Planets: PL Pluto, HA Haumea, ER Eris, MK Makemake, SW Snow White, SD Sedna
1. The astrological planets have strengths (or perhaps "virtue" or "significance") following more or less the following pattern.
The luminaries SU, MO are the most powerful, each capable of ruling a sign alone.
The major planets ME, VE, MA, JU, SA, UR and NE have sufficient power to co-rule a sign. Such a planet has half the power of a luminary.
The most significant of the Transneptunians, namely Pluto, Haumea, Makemake, Eris, Snow White and Sedna seem, on first approximation, to have much less power than the major planets. I suggest that each has up to half the power of the majors, and very specific and recognizable significations.
I speak very broadly here; it is likely that SU is more "powerful" than MO, SA than ME, etc., but on the whole I feel that, as a rule of thumb, a minor planet is worth half a major planet, and major planet is worth less than half a luminary.
2. I suggest the rulership scheme in the attached document "Schema".
For example, suppose a native has LE rising. Then the Chart ruler is SU, and we can look to the condition of this to gain considerable insight as to the native's life. A native with, say, SG rising is more problematic, and we must look to the condition of both JU and NE to learn as much as we would, in the first chart, from the SU alone.
Now consider TA rising. We have hitherto looked only to VE as chart ruler, and of course gained much insight in doing so. But we now have VE, ER and MK to consider. This does not diminish the contribution of VE, but adds information specific to the natures of ER and MK. Together, they should be given as much importance as VE, but alone, each will contribute half or less than half the information we get from VE.
3. I suggest the Transneptunians to have the following associations.
HAUMEA: exasperation, frustration, spite.
MAKEMAKE: perfection, balance, incompleteness.
ERIS: want, greed, need.
SNOW WHITE: innocence, ignorance?
SEDNA: discomfort, disgust, impatience.
Haumea, Eris and Sedna have been thoroughly investigated and I advance suggested aspect meanings in the relevant threads. Work on Makemake is currently under way. The attribution of SW is largely due to the name- ephemerides are not yet (03/09/2013) extant. More Transneptunians (probably) remain to be discovered, and I shall place these where appropriate. A case may be made for certain minor bodies within the orbit of Neptune, notably Chiron; this may be placed in Sagittarius and Pisces. I suggest that the Transneptunians (Pluto included) be used only with the major aspects and sextiles.
PLEASE NOTE
The material given here, although thoroughly investigated from the perspective of a single researcher, cannot be the whole story. Any Forum Member who consults the material is warned to trust their own intuitions before mine. I hope that Forum Members will post their experiences and opinions of the material in the relevant forums, especially if critical. This will enable the process of addenda and revision necessary to a more complete view of these planets.
Members of the Forum may consult this material freely, and may use this material in horoscope interpretation without acknowledgement. However, if the material is employed in any work of analysis or criticism, please credit to "Mersenne the Astrologer" (2013) Transneptunian Planets. Available at the Astrologers' Forum, [please add a link and give the last date of access]
GOOGLE SEARCHWORDS: Eris Sedna Haumea aspects conjunct opposite trine square
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With the kind assistance of Admin, I am currently researching the meaning of the Transneptunian planets, and have arrived at the following tentative conclusions. Please don't take them as written in stone; I expect and invite criticism.
TRANSNEPTUNIANS IN MODERN ASTROLOGY
In recent years the number of legitimate astrological bodies has increased with the discovery of several bodies beyond the orbit of Neptune. Most of these bodies are structurally similar to Pluto and are termed “planetoids” by the astronomers, who kindly tabulated them for us. I shall of course refer to them as “planets”, unless I wish to distinguish them as a class, in which case I’ll use the terms “Transneptunians” or “minor planets”. A planet is whatever we astrologers say is a planet, even if the astronomers say it's a star, satellite or planetoid. All that matters is that it moves against the background of fixed stars (etymology: asteres planetai "wandering stars" ).
The following key applies.
Luminaries: SU Sun, MO Moon
Major Planets: ME Mercury, VE Venus, MA Mars, JU Jupiter, SA Saturn, UR Uranus, NE Neptune
Minor Planets: PL Pluto, HA Haumea, ER Eris, MK Makemake, SW Snow White, SD Sedna
1. The astrological planets have strengths (or perhaps "virtue" or "significance") following more or less the following pattern.
The luminaries SU, MO are the most powerful, each capable of ruling a sign alone.
The major planets ME, VE, MA, JU, SA, UR and NE have sufficient power to co-rule a sign. Such a planet has half the power of a luminary.
The most significant of the Transneptunians, namely Pluto, Haumea, Makemake, Eris, Snow White and Sedna seem, on first approximation, to have much less power than the major planets. I suggest that each has up to half the power of the majors, and very specific and recognizable significations.
I speak very broadly here; it is likely that SU is more "powerful" than MO, SA than ME, etc., but on the whole I feel that, as a rule of thumb, a minor planet is worth half a major planet, and major planet is worth less than half a luminary.
2. I suggest the rulership scheme in the attached document "Schema".
For example, suppose a native has LE rising. Then the Chart ruler is SU, and we can look to the condition of this to gain considerable insight as to the native's life. A native with, say, SG rising is more problematic, and we must look to the condition of both JU and NE to learn as much as we would, in the first chart, from the SU alone.
Now consider TA rising. We have hitherto looked only to VE as chart ruler, and of course gained much insight in doing so. But we now have VE, ER and MK to consider. This does not diminish the contribution of VE, but adds information specific to the natures of ER and MK. Together, they should be given as much importance as VE, but alone, each will contribute half or less than half the information we get from VE.
3. I suggest the Transneptunians to have the following associations.
HAUMEA: exasperation, frustration, spite.
MAKEMAKE: perfection, balance, incompleteness.
ERIS: want, greed, need.
SNOW WHITE: innocence, ignorance?
SEDNA: discomfort, disgust, impatience.
Haumea, Eris and Sedna have been thoroughly investigated and I advance suggested aspect meanings in the relevant threads. Work on Makemake is currently under way. The attribution of SW is largely due to the name- ephemerides are not yet (03/09/2013) extant. More Transneptunians (probably) remain to be discovered, and I shall place these where appropriate. A case may be made for certain minor bodies within the orbit of Neptune, notably Chiron; this may be placed in Sagittarius and Pisces. I suggest that the Transneptunians (Pluto included) be used only with the major aspects and sextiles.
PLEASE NOTE
The material given here, although thoroughly investigated from the perspective of a single researcher, cannot be the whole story. Any Forum Member who consults the material is warned to trust their own intuitions before mine. I hope that Forum Members will post their experiences and opinions of the material in the relevant forums, especially if critical. This will enable the process of addenda and revision necessary to a more complete view of these planets.
Members of the Forum may consult this material freely, and may use this material in horoscope interpretation without acknowledgement. However, if the material is employed in any work of analysis or criticism, please credit to "Mersenne the Astrologer" (2013) Transneptunian Planets. Available at the Astrologers' Forum, [please add a link and give the last date of access]
GOOGLE SEARCHWORDS: Eris Sedna Haumea aspects conjunct opposite trine square
WERE YOU BROUGHT HERE BY A GOOGLE SEARCH? Membership is free and carries no obligation. There are no pop-ups and you need not engage in a correspondence unless you wish to.