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I am astro_mania with a new topic to discuss.

I have been practicing numerology since long. But I have paid no interest in change of name for improvement. I concentrated merely on how to predict more realistically.

It seems I need to consider the branch "Nameology". Many people who request my reading also request name change as if needed though I never suggested one. So I request you to respond with your views on this branch of numerology.


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Re: NAME0LOGY

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Hi astro_mania,

You mentioned this matter before, and thought I had responded with a question about name-changes, but can’t find it at this moment.

I did study this ‘name’ matter for some time, quite a while ago, but gave up on it as my interests went elsewhere. From the ‘system’ I used, each letter of the alphabet corresponds with it’s number (between A=1, to Z=26). (Must’ve used it a lot as I still don’t have to look up the numerical equivalent to each letter...seems to be ‘ingrained’).

For easy ref :

A 1. J 10/1. S 19/1.
B 2. K 11/2. T 20/2.
C 3. L 12/3. U 21/3.
D 4. M 13/4. V 22/4.
E 5. N 14/5. W 23/5.
F 6. O 15/6. X 24/6.
G 7. P 16/7. Y 25/7.
H 8. Q 17/8. Z 26/8.
I 9. R 18/9.

The nos. above 9 (from the letter ‘J’ = 10, K=11 etc.) are reduced to the single digit (1+0=1, and etc.). So the name ‘astro_mania’ would be 1+1+2+9+6+4+1+5+9+1=39/12/3. (Bear in mind that this is the name you have chosen for this particular ‘area’/medium, and are relevant only in the media or areas in which you use it, so the ‘meaning’ of this ‘name number’ is relevant only to those media in which you use that name).

Full names: First name(s) and family name would, of course be quite different and represent you in a different way.

In this system, the ‘whole name’ supposedly represents ‘The Path of Destiny’ number – which in turn, represents the ‘aim in life’ and ‘the path we must walk’. (This can be modified with name changes such as marriage, or nicknames that are used by others). (I won’t use your personal full name here of course so will use a random name): eg. Jane Mary Jones (Jane:1+1+5+5, Mary:+5+1+9+7, Jones: 1+6+5+5+1 = 52/7). So her ‘Path of Destiny’ is ‘7’.

A name is of course, comprised of Vowels and Consonants.

Vowels apparently indicate the ‘Soul Number’ – or what is the ‘real’ person within.

(NB: ‘y’ is considered both a vowel and a consonant, depending on how it is pronounced in the name. In ‘Mary’ it has a vowel sound; in a name such as ‘Yates’, for eg., it has a consonant sound. I have wondered about this and also about the letter ‘e’ which is often ‘silent’...but nothing was mentioned of this).

The Vowels in ‘Jane Mary Jones’ are: a e a y o or, 1+5+1+7+6+5=25/7. So her ‘Soul Number is also ‘7’.

Consonants supposedly represent the ‘Outer Personality’ – or how ‘others see one’... (not unlike the Ascendant in Astrology). The Consonants in this name are J n M r J n s, or, 1+5+4+9+1+5+1=26/8. Thus her ‘Outer Personality’ is ‘8’.

The text I started with in my venture into this area of Numerology was “Numerology and The Divine ‘Triangle’” by Faith Javanne and Dusty Bunker; Publisher: Para Research. Of course there are many sites online about name numerology. I just checked a few and one I went into (http://www.astroloka.com/numnamecalculator.aspx ) offered ‘Types’ of various systems including ‘Cherio’ (which I assumed was supposed to be ‘Cheiro’... the system you use?). Unfortunately the misspelling did put me off a bit, and also, unfortunately that particular site didn’t convey much to me about this particular system. Obviously there are many other sites relevant to this matter, which I’ll leave up to you to pursue...or not.

Naturally the name one is given at birth is of fundamental relevance. Name changes, whether by marriage, commonly used nicknames, or pen-names/nom des plumes, describe another ‘persona’ used and reacted/responded to by others.

As I said, I haven’t used name numerology for some time, so the foregoing may not be relevant to your numerology system. But, It surely has piqued my interest in the matter again.

Hope that some of this has relevance to your query.

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p.s. I tried to spread the table for easier reading but when posted, it closed up.
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Re: NAME0LOGY

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hai admin

It seems finally that you are getting really into the magic of Numerology.

I thank you from my heart for posting such a researched article and taking pains for explaining them to me. I indeed appreciate how well you explained it.
Much of the information is must for a basic numerologist and it indeed helps in knowing why a need arises for balance of name.

My point is, if you are ready to take one more step, is there any special branch of numerology that is called "Nameology" that you came through? Have you ever gone through any findings related? I will be very happy to learn and I am very eager to know.

By the way, you didn't seem to lack either interest or knowledge of numerology. It is only practice, as you are more interested in mysteries of intriguing astrology, is lacking.

I thank you from my heart for your research in this subject.

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Re: NAME0LOGY

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hai

I propose a theory below which I made up for myself. I hope some one may want to try.

To detect the general trend of name, for being favourable or unfavourable can be as follows.

take your date of birth
I am taking mine : 19-9-1971
Find fate number : 1+9=10=1(date)
Find destiny number : 1+9+9+7+1=19=10=1(dob total)
take your name.
I am taking mine : prasad
I am using the cheiro's numbers.
p= 8
add fate number and destiny number on both sides
=181
keep the process for all letters.
181 = 10
121 = 4
111 = 3
131 = 5
111 = 3
141 = 5
Total = 796 =7+9+6=22
Now, you may refer to 22 to understand the combination of name and date of birth. As per cheiro, it refers a man who has great potential but is easily fooled or easily misdirected or misled. Easy to deceive still capable of large things. As such, this number is not preferred from worldly stand point.
If you observe the 30, the total from reduced numbers, it tells a person who is very much involved in self and always slow in general.

The above data is very true of me. It says the combination is not good if I want worldly success.(Whether I am ready for change or not is another matter)

So, I say that it is not impossible to judge the combination of name and date of birth as such and we can decide that without going into actual details of life(ie whether the name had helped him or not). But of course, as always the case, the experience to judge is also very important.

Hope you know the range of letters and their values.

Hope you are ready to experiment and respond.(As this is my own theory, I request your critical analysis)

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Re: NAMEOLOGY

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hai

I think I should give some more information of my theory. Here it is how it goes.

First, let me clarify the reason why I took the combination of Fate number, Letter number and Destiny number as such.

I defined Fate as the work you would do instantly as a situation arises.
I defined Destiny as the path you are as the result of the works you have chosen, consciously or unconsciously.
The letter is part of an expression which gives you power to balance what you output.

Secondly, I wish to provide the letters a to z with numbers.

A = 1 N = 5
B = 2 O = 7
C = 3 P = 8
D = 4 Q = 1
E = 5 R = 2
F = 8 S = 3
G = 3 T = 4
H = 5 U = 6
I or J = 1 V = 6
K = 2 W = 6
L = 3 X = 5
M = 4 Y = 1
Z = 7

Now, there are different names that are in use for a person. For example, a birth name given is generally long or of less use. It may be subject to many changes from time to time. A person may be known by a number of names from time to time. So, I recommend to use the name you are mostly known by(in case it is not your original name) for information regarding that field or that social group.

Hope you will be critically analyzing and commenting on this.

Expecting your opinions,

astro_mania

ps: In case I have created any confusion or ambiguity, please immediately inform me so that I can rectify.
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Re: NAMEOLOGY

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hai

I think I forgot to refer one important aspect. It is what to decide when the name is not favorable.

When a name is not favorable, it yields numbers that are not suitable to birth number(birth number being the immediate effect number). This process is complex and requires some experience.

When name is not favorable, you got to change your name. You cannot change your date of birth.

When your name is not favorable, Your name must be edited. A few letters may be added or removed.

As you add or remove letters, care should be taken that the flow that your name naturally follows is not disturbed. But it should better your way of decision.

Hope you will respond with your comments.

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Re: NAMEOLOGY

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hai

I forgot to provide description of numbers 10-52, for your easy reference. Here they are :

10.

Symbolized as the "Wheel of Fortune". It is a number of honor, of faith and self-confidence, of rise and fall; one's name will be known for good or evil, according to one's desires; it is a fortunate number in the sense that one's plans are likely to be car ried out.

11.

This is an ominous number to occultists. It gives warning of hidden dangers, trial, and treachery from others. It has a symbol of a "Clenched Hand", and "a Lion Muzzled", and of a person who will have great difficulties to contend against.

12.

The symbolism of this number is suffering and anxiety of mind. It is also indicated as "the Sacrifice" or "the Victim" and generally foreshadows one being sacrificed for the plans or intrigues of others.

13.

This is a number indicating change of plans, place and such-like and is not unfortunate, as is generally supposed. In some of the an cient writings it is said, "He who understands the number 13 will be given power and dominion". It is symbolized by the picture of a "Skeleton" of "Death," with a scythe reaping down men, in a field of new-grown grass where young faces and heads appear crop ping up on every side. It is a number of upheaval and destruction. It is a symbol of "Power" which if wrongly used will wreak destruction upon oneself. It is a number of warning of the unknown or unexpected, if it becomes a "compound" number in one's calculations.

14.

This is a number of movement, combination of people and things, and danger from natural forces such as tempests, water, air or fire. This number is fortunate for dealings with money, speculation and changes in business, but there is always a strong element of risk and danger attached to it, but generally owing to the actions and fool hardiness of others. If this number comes out in calcula tions of future events the person should be warned to act with cau tion and prudence.

15.

This is a number of occult significance, of magic and mystery; but as a rule it does not represent the higher side of occultism, its meaning being that the persons represented by it will use every art of magic they can to carry out their purpose. If associated with a good or fortunate single number, it can be very lucky and power ful, but if associated with one of the peculiar numbers, such as a 4 or an 8, the person it represents will not hesitate to use any sort of art, or even ''black-magic," to gain what he or she desires.
It is peculiarly associated with "good talkers," often with elo quence, gifts of music and art and a dramatic personality, combin ed with a certain voluptuous temperament and strong personal magnetism. For obtaining money, gifts, and favours from others it is a fortunate number.

16.

This number has a most peculiar occult symbolism. It is pic tured by "a Tower Struck by Lightning from which a man is falling with a Crown on his head." It is also called "the Shattered Citadel".
It gives warning of some strange fatality awaiting one, also danger of accidents and defeat of one's plans. If it appears as a "compound" number relating to the future, it is a warning sign that should be carefully noted and plans made in advance in the endeavour to avert its fatalistic tendency.

17.

This is a highly spiritual number, and is expressed in symbolism by the 8-pointed Sta r of Venus; a symbol of "Peace and love". It is also called "the Star of the Magi" and expresses that the person it represents has risen superior in spirit to the trials and difficulties of his life or his career . It is considered a "Number of immortality" and that the person's name "lives after him". It is a fortunate number if it works out in relation to future events, provided it is not associated with the single number of fours and eights.

18.

This number has a difficult symbolism to translate. It is pictured as "a rayed moon from which drops of blood are falling; a wolf and a hungry dog are seen below catching the falling drops of blood in their opened mouths, while still lower a crab is seen hastening to join them." It is symbolic of materialism striving to destroy the spiritual side of the nature. It generally associates a per son with bitter quarrels, even family ones, also with war, social upheavals, revolutions; and in some cases it indicates making money and position thorough wars or by wars. It is however a warn ing of treachery, deception by others, also danger from the elements such as storms, danger from water, fires and explosions. When this "compound" number appears in working out dates in advance, such a date should be taken with a great amount of care, caution and circumspection.

19.

This number is regarded as fortunate and extremely favorable. It is symbolized as "the Sun" and is called "the Prince of Heaven." It is a number promising happiness, success, esteem and honor and promises success in one's plan for the future.

20. This number is called "the Awakening"; also "the Judgement". It is symbolized by the figure of a winged angel soun ding a trumpet, while from below a man, a woman, and a child are seen rising from a tomb with their hands clasped in prayer.
This number has a peculiar interpretation; the call to action, but for some great purpose, cause or duty. It is not a material number and consequently is a doubtful one as far as worldly success is con cerned. If used in relation to a future event, it denotes delays, hindrances to one's plans, which can only be conquered through the develop ment of the spiritual side of nature.

21.

This number is symbolized by the picture of "the Universe", and it is also called "the Crown of the Magi". It is a number of ad vancement, honors, elevation in life and general success. It means victory after long initiation and tests of determination. It is a fortunate number of promise if it appears in any connection with future events.

22.

This number is symbolized by a " a Good Man blinded by the folly of others, with a knapsack on his back full of Arrows". In this picture he appears to offer no defense against a ferocious tiger which is attacking him. It is a warning number of illusion and delusion, a good person who lives in a fool's paradise; a dreamer of dreams who awakens only when surrounded by danger. It is also a number of false judgment owing to the influence of others.As a number in connection with future events, it is a warning and its meaning should be carefully noted.

23.

This number is called "the Royal Star of the Lion." It is a pro mise of success, help from superiors and protection from those in high places. In dealing with future events it is a most fortunate number and a promise of success of one's plan's.

24.

This number is also fortunate; it promises the assistance and association of those of rank and position with one's plans; it also denotes gain through love and the opposite sex; it is a favorable number when it comes out in relation to future events.

25.

This is a number denoting strength gained through experience, and benefits obtained through observation of people and things. It is not deemed exactly "lucky", as its success is given through strife and trials in an earlier life. It is favorable when it appears in regard to the future.

26.

This number is full of the gravest warnings for the future. It foreshadows disasters brought about by association with others; ruin by bad speculations, by partnerships, unions and bad advice. If it comes out in connection with future events one should carefully consider the path one is treading.

27.

This is a good number and is symbolized as "the Sceptre." It is a promise of authority, power and command. It indicates that reward will come from the productive intellect; that the creative faculties have sown good seeds that will reap a harvest. Persons with this "command" number at their back should carry out their own ideas and plans. It is a fortunate number if it appears in any connection with future events.

28.

This number is full of contradictions. It indicates a person of great promise and possibilities who is likely to see all taken away from him unless he carefully provides for the future. It indicates loss through trust in others, opposition and competition in trade, danger of loss through law, and the likelihood of having to begin life's road over and over again.

29.

It is not a fortunate number for the indication of future events. This number indicates uncertainties, treachery, and deception of others; it foreshadows trials, tribulation, and unexpected dangers, unreliable friends, and grief and deception caused by members of the opposite sex. It gives grave warning if it comes out in anything concerning future events.

30.

This is a number of thoughtful deduction, retrospection, and mental superiority over one's fellows, but as it seems to belong completely to the mental plane, the persons it represents, are likely to put all material things on one side — not because they have to, but because they wish to do so. For this reason it is neither for tunate nor unfortunate, for either depends on the mental outlook of the person it represents. It can be all powerful, but it is just as often indifferent according to the will or desire of the person.

31.

This number is very similar to the preceding one, except that the person it represents is even more self-contacted, lonely, and isolated from his fellows. It is not a fortunate number from a worldly or material standpoint.

32.

This number has a magical power like the single 5, or the "command" numbers 14 and 23. It is usually associated with combina tions of people or nations. It is a fortunate number if the person it represents holds to his own judgment and opinions; if not, his plans are likely to be wrecked by the stubbornness and stupidity of others. It is a favorable number if it appears in connection with future events.

33.

This number has no potency of its own and consequently has the same meaning as 24 — which is also a 6 — and the next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.

34.

Has the same meaning as the number 25, which is the one next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.

35.

Has the same meaning as the number 26, which is the one next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.

36.

Has the same meaning as the number 27, which is the one next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.

37.

This number has a distinct potency of its own. It is a number of good and fortunate friendships in love, and in combinations con nected with the opposite sex. It is also good for partnerships of all kinds. It is a fortunate indication if it appears in connection with future events.

38.

Has the same meaning as the number 29, which is the one next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.

39.

Has the same meaning as the number 30, which is the one next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.

40.

Has the same meaning as the number 31, which is the one next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.

41.

Has the same meaning as the number 32, which is one next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.

42.

Has the same meaning as the number 24.

43.

This is an unfortunate number. It is symbolized by the signs of revolution, upheaval, strife, failure, and prevention and is not a fortunate number if it comes out in calculation relating to future events.

44.

Has the same meaning as 26.

45.

Has the same meaning as 27.

46.

Has the same meaning as 37.

47.

Has the same meaning as 29.

48.

Has the same meaning as 30.

49.

Has the same meaning as 31.

50.

Has the same meaning as 32.

51.

This number has a very powerful potency of its own. It represents the nature of the warrior; it promises sudden advance ment in whatever one undertakes; it is especially favorable for those in military or naval life and for leaders in any cause. At the same time it threatens enemies, dangers and the likelihood of assassination.

52.

Has the same meaning as 43.


Hope you are benefited from the above information.

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Why did Cheiro choose these numbers to be associated with the particular letters of the alphabet? (I’m reading the text: http://www.scribd.com/doc/40231966/Book-of-Numbers . Utterly fascinating ! But, you’re the detective and authority on this matter here, and it’s a large text to go through). Understand that it’s very complicated, unless one is a student of this way.

So, I see, you have used Cheiro’s ‘p=8, and added 1 (fate) and 1 (destiny), but not adding them together...just starting with 1) Fate=1, then Name: (first letter, in this instance ‘P=8), then adding Destiny No. = 1). But this isn’t ‘adding’, it’s ‘combining’ ?

So, the letters are and equal: (as you have said):
A = 1 N = 5
B = 2 O = 7
C = 3 P = 8
D = 4 Q = 1
E = 5 R = 2
F = 8 S = 3
G = 3 T = 4
H = 5 U = 6
I or J = 1 V = 6
K = 2 W = 6
L = 3 X = 5
M = 4 Y = 1
Z = 7

It’s complicated (only speaking personally, because I’m so used to using numbers and the letters they’re associated with, in ‘another’ way...a way that is more ‘obvious’ - and I never like ‘obvious’, so I do very much like this ‘deeper’ and certainly different view). It is utterly fascinating, inevitably.

I do hope others here will attempt to follow through on all of the excellent and detailed work you have done and offered here. I surely will !

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hai admin

Yes, indeed I agree that the process was combining. I must also admit that it is intense. But, since I was the inventor and practical authority, I think I can view the results from different angles.

First thing is I have applied this system and practical problems in one's life are revealed, without doubt.

When I work with compound or double digit numbers, the normal system that is recommended is to simply reduce them by adding digits together. That is, if 54 is encountered, you have to reduce it to 5+4=9 and then rise it to compound number by "rising", ie keep on adding 9s as long as it is not double digit. The first double digit or compound number that comes in our way is 18. Still, I have one personal system, which is very successful in looking at compound numbers and explaining more intensely. So, keeping both together, the points are very clear.

Once you worked out with the total value of your name using the "created" numbers, you may sit explaining individual numbers in accordance to final total as well as your date of birth. Of course, it requires knowledge of normal number relation, but if you have that idea, you can easily proceed further and determine the better number and the bad number. This helps in determining what letter is causing which action and what should be done to better the situation.

This all happens with your hard work and careful application. In case the results are not applying, please inform the case with details. We may finally come up understanding better or we may come up having some questions.

As far as the personal information is concerned, I suggest you to take up some famous personality to start with and test the theories like I do.

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Today I want to present a Numerology report on Elizabeth Taylor. She is born on 27-2-1932.

Her Destiny : 27=9 2 = 2 1932 = 6 9+2+6 = 17 = 8

Now the second part E L I Z A B E T H T A Y L O R
5 3 1 7 1 2 5 4 5 4 1 1 3 7 2 = 33 + 18 51


958+ 938+ 918+978+918+928+958+948+958+948+918+918+938+978+928=14130
When decreased, this results in 12. (According to my system). This number is not a
harmonious one. Though on its own Birth date indicates very powerful influence, this
person is bonded with humanity and family ties so much that seperate entity, which she
dearly wants is often a failure. However, keeping the rare "Z" in view and also
total 14130 ending with zero, it indicates successful adoption of situations. More over,
in general sense, 14130=18. This is a number in total accordance. So, the number is
a hurdle in being any greater than what they are, the personality often proves promising.


Hope some one will comment.

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