March 28, 28 at 5:40am, Supposedly the Real Birth Time of Jesus Christ, According to a Mysterious Person

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March 28, 28 at 5:40am, Supposedly the Real Birth Time of Jesus Christ, According to a Mysterious Person

Post by Thiaoouba Prophecy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:46 am

I learned from an astrologer that the real birth time of Jesus Christ is 28 March, 28 AD at 5:40 am in Bethlehem. It came from someone mysterious, but someone who seemed to be connected with the Vatican.

Would anyone be interested in doing a birth chart analysis on this? Thanks in advance.
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Re: March 28, 28 at 5:40am, Supposedly the Real Birth Time of Jesus Christ, According to a Mysterious Person

Post by Pem » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:13 am

Hello T Prophecy
Thanks for this information which will be interesting to find out more.
I shall make the Vedic Chart according to the time given.
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Re: March 28, 28 at 5:40am, Supposedly the Real Birth Time of Jesus Christ, According to a Mysterious Person

Post by Noel Eastwood » Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:14 pm

I believe that before the 25th December was chosen (which was originally the birthday of the God Mithrais) Jesus' birthday was celebrated on the 6th January.

From my free subscriber-only newsletters (and soon to be published in book form):

Saturn, as we know, rules Capricorn, as such it holds a special place in astrology as the active and forthright Cardinal Earth sign. The links between Saturn, the celebrations of Saturnalia, Sol Invictus, Mithraism, Christianity and the myths of Capricorn, calls for closer examination.
Jack Finegan in ‘Myth & Mystery: An Introduction to the Pagan Religions of the Biblical World’ (1989) writes: “...But the worship of the sun-god continued widely throughout the empire, and under Aurelian (A.D. 270- 275) the cult was restored to its former high estate. In the year 274 Aurelian declared the god - now called Deus Sol Invictus - the official deity of the Roman Empire; he built a splendid temple of the sun in Rome... and set the sun’s birthday celebration (naturalis solis invicti) on December 25th, the date then accepted for the Winter Solstice (also in his solar character was the God Mithrais). In the time of Constantine the cult of Deus Sol Invictus was still at its height, and the portrait of the sun god was on the coins of Constantine... Likewise it must have been in this time and with the intent to transform the significance of an existing sacred date that the birthday of Jesus, which had been celebrated in the East on January 6th... was placed in Rome on December 25th, the date of the birth of Sol Invictus. This date appears in a list of dates probably compiled in A.D. 336 and published in the Roman city calendar.” (Finegan, p. 211-212).

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Post by Thiaoouba Prophecy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:43 pm

I don't think 6th January is reasonable because the chart doesn't look as good, don't you think so?
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Re: March 28, 28 at 5:40am, Supposedly the Real Birth Time of Jesus Christ, According to a Mysterious Person

Post by Noel Eastwood » Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:08 am

Hi Thia, there are many things we need to create an accurate horoscope.

We need three things: birth date, an accurate time to within 10 minutes, and birth place. We know the birthplace was Bethlehem, "Bethlehem is a city located in the central West Bank, Palestine, about 10 km south of Jerusalem." Wikipedia.

Unfortunately the Bible, which, as far as Christians are concerned, is the only recording of Jesus' birth, does not give a date or accurate time of birth. We know it was evening because the shepherds were told to go there by the angels. But we must remember, December is winter and too cold for shepherds to keep their sheep out at night, so the season must have been from spring to autumn, not December, winter.

The three astrologers, Magi, could have come at any time after Jesus birth, from days to months to a few years. That makes the date impossible to calculate from their appearance. If he was born during the time of King Herod The Great, who told the Magi that they should bring back news of their visit to Jesus (so that he could kill him) places Jesus birth during his reign. Don't forget that Herod ordered all male children up to two years of age killed. This suggests that Jesus was up to two years of age at the time of the Magi visit. Herod is believed to have died around December 1 BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_birth_of_Jesus

Time of birth, some people have used Johns dream (which occured many years after Jesus was born), of the rising of the constellation of Virgo which would place the date at 11th September 3 BC between 6.15 pm and 7.15 pm. https://crossexamined.org/time-jesus-born/#

But why do we celebrate his birth on the 25th December? This was the festival of the Roman God Saturn, Saturnalia, to celebrate the Winter Solstice. It was also the time of birth for other Gods in that region. The Winter Solstice was and still is a very important day, it celebrates the birth of the Sun after a long cold winter of starvation, privation, loneliness, boredom and depression for our ancestors.

"In the 1st and 2nd centuries, the Lord's Day (Sunday) was the earliest Christian celebration and included a number of theological themes. In the 2nd century, the Resurrection of Jesus became a separate feast (now called Easter) and in the same century Epiphany began to be celebrated in the Eastern Churches on 6 January.[42] The festival of the Nativity which later turned into Christmas was a 4th-century feast in the Western Church notably in Rome and North Africa, although it is uncertain exactly where and when it was first celebrated.[43]

The earliest source stating 25 December as the date of birth of Jesus is likely a book by Hippolytus of Rome, written in the early 3rd century. He based his view on the assumption that the conception of Jesus took place at the Spring equinox which Hippolytus placed on 25 March, and then added nine months to calculate the date of birth. That date was then used for the Christmas celebration.[44] 25 March would also roughly be the date of his crucifixion, which ancient Christians would have seen as confirming the date of his birth, since many people of that era held the belief that the great prophets were conceived into the afterlife on the same date they were conceived into the world.[citation needed] John Chrysostom also argued for a 25 December date in the late 4th century, basing his argument on the assumption that the offering of incense mentioned in Luke 1:8–11 refers to the offering of incense by a high priest on Yom Kippur (early October), and, as above, counting fifteen months forward. However, this was very likely a retrospective justification of a choice already made rather than a genuine attempt to derive the correct birth date.[45]

Lastly, 25 December might be a reference to the date of the Feast of Dedication, which occurs on 25 Kislev of the Jewish calendar. This would require that early Christians simply translated Kislev directly to December.
" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_birth_of_Jesus

I hope this information helps.

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